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==={{Dragon Quest Heroes}} & {{Dragon Quest Heroes II}}=== Kathwack appears as [[Kiryl]]'s [[Coup de Grâce]], carrying over from {{DQMBR}}. After trying and failing to cast [[Thwack]] multiple times, [[Kiryl]] becomes annoyed and stomps on the text windows in frustration, before casting a souped-up version of Kathwack, which annihilates groups of enemies with waves of darkness. This version of Kathwack causes damage, rather than instant death. This references [[Kiryl]]'s AI in the {{NES}} version of {{Dragon Quest IV}}, where [[Kiryl]] would infamously cast the [[Whack]] and [[Thwack]] spells constantly against boss {{MFamilies}}s to no effect.
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